Podcast
Episode Summary
In this episode, Matt Markins and Mike Handler take on a frustration nearly every children’s ministry leader knows: parents aren’t using the resources the church hands them. Their diagnosis is that this isn’t a resource problem or even an implementation problem. It’s a culture problem. Most American homes, including church-attending homes, are shaped by cultures of achievement, sports, screens, or convenience, and discipleship gets rejected like a cartridge that doesn’t fit the system. Handing parents another plan won’t fix that. As Mike’s childhood story of receiving train set accessories without the train set illustrates, resources without vision are just spare parts nobody knows what to do with.
The conversation then walks through the first two of four spheres from the Forming Faith pathway that help parents cultivate a culture of discipleship at home. Vision asks parents to picture their child at 40 and name the values and convictions they hope that adult holds, because a family without a clear vision will absorb one from the surrounding culture. Time and place is about deliberateness: owning the calendar before it owns you, establishing intentional rhythms like shared meals, and using organic ones like car rides, seasons, and even a child’s disappointment after a failed audition as moments to talk about God. The episode also touches on language (dialogue over monologue, drawn from Deuteronomy 6) and community (every child needs a team of five caring adults), and lands on the line Matt calls his most important of the season: the shortest pathway to Jesus for a child is always through the parent.
In This Episode
- Why the American home, even the Christian one, defaults to achievement, sports, screen, or convenience culture, and why discipleship gets rejected by those systems
- Culture eats strategy for breakfast: why you can’t out-plan a bad home culture
- The four spheres of the Forming Faith pathway: vision, time and place, language, and community, and how they map onto Belong, Believe, Become
- Vision: five questions to ask parents about who their child will be at 40
- Mike’s train set story, and why resources without vision are just spare parts
- Time and place: intentional rhythms vs. organic rhythms, and owning your calendar before it owns you
- Redeeming the car ride, the waiting room, and the disappointment of not getting the part
- Language: dialogue over monologue, and the story of Katie discipling a newborn with a leaf
- Community: the 5-to-1 principle from Kara Powell’s Sticky Faith, and the ministry leader’s role as a connector of adults around each child
- The research: only 12% of parents use church-provided resources most of the time
- The line of the season: “The shortest pathway to Jesus for a child is always through the parent”
Resources Mentioned
- Forming Faith (the Formational Home chapter)
- Sticky Faith by Kara Powell
